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2. About alt.games.mame

2.1 What is alt.games.mame?

alt.games.mame is a newsgroup created in January 1998, by Kristian M. Tanner, for discussions regarding MAME - its use and functionality, the playing of the emulated Arcade Games and other related topics.

2.2 Can I post/receive binary files on this group?

alt.games.mame is NOT a binary newsgroup, the posting of any binary files however small is NOT permitted. Not sure what a binary is? - A binary is any file that you attach to a posted message like a zipped ROM, a picture, a sound file, a message in html, etc.

If you are still not entirely sure, then DON'T POST IT.

2.3 How should I behave in this newsgroup?

Like you would in normal life, this group is in no way different. You're dealing with real people here. Be civil. If you are unfamiliar with Usenet you may wish to check out http://www.newsreaders.com/guide/netiquette.html which explains "netiquette".

The most important thing that you should always remember when you post on Usenet, is that people who read your message, have only the text you wrote, to judge you by! So, if your message was unreadable, filled with typos or came off in a manner, that you did not intend, then *that* is what people are reacting to! It *always* pays to spell-check and look your message over, before posting it, just to make sure, that it really says what you want it to say!

Do *not* ask for reply by e-mail only. A Newsgroup works by allowing everybody to post questions and read and post comments to the replies, thus pooling our efforts. Cutting out feed-back from others by going to e-mail, is at best impolite. Besides, there may be hundreds of people reading this newsgroup, would you really like to receive, and have to reply to, a hundred e-mail messages that are more or less identical?

And one last important thing! Never *EVER* flame the MAME team for any reason whatsoever. MAME is strictly a non-profit project, so you have absolutely no right to make demands or criticise anything. You have no right to command which game they should emulate next. If there *is* a specific game that you're simply dying to have emulated, then you could try and set up a web page, gathering as much information about that specific game you'd like to see emulated as possible. Things like ROMs, schematics, manuals, screenshots from the arcade machine and so on. Gathering all the information in one place, and providing it for potential Emu-coders is far more likely to get a game emulated, than just complaining: "Why isn't that game emulated yet?"

2.4 What is top posting? Should I do it?

Top posting is when someone responds to another message and puts the response in the first few lines of their message, leaving the quoted original below the response, hence the response is at the 'top' of the post. This is BAD.

While not a cardinal sin in alt.games.mame, it is not the correct way to respond. One should always remove the sig from the quoted message and place their response after the pertinant text. For example, if I were to post the following:

I really like Street Fighter. Its a great game.
And Mortal Kombat is awesome too.
But I have to say that pacman really blows.
I mean who would like such a crappy game?
It's got nuthin on Ms. Pacman,
thats a beautiful work of software engineering,
I mean its sweet.
And that doesn't even begin to comment on how hot Ms Pacman is,
wowzer, what a hottie!
OK, in all fairness I would never in a million years post such drivel, and I hope I never have to read it. But a BAD response would be:
What are you crazy dude? That game sucks!

Captain Rotundo Wrote:
> I really like Street Fighter. Its a great game.
> And Mortal Kombat is awesome too.
> But I have to say that pacman really blows.
> I mean who would like such a crappy game?
> It's got nuthin on Ms. Pacman,
> thats a beautiful work of software engineering,
> I mean its sweet.
> And that doesn't even begin to comment on how hot Ms Pacman is,
> wowzer, what a hottie!
While an extreme case, you can clearly see that no one would have any way of knowing which game the response is referring to. Does he mean Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, or Ms. Pacman? You probably think that he should just name the game, lets try that:
Man I love pacman!

Captain Rotundo Wrote:
> I really like Street Fighter. Its a great game.
> And Mortal Kombat is awesome too.
> But I have to say that pacman really blows.
> I mean who would like such a crappy game?
> It's got nuthin on Ms. Pacman,
> thats a beautiful work of software engineering,
> I mean its sweet.
> And that doesn't even begin to comment on how hot Ms Pacman is,
> wowzer, what a hottie!
Now when you read this post it appears to be a statment about Pacman, followed by a quote with no referrence as to how they are related. Why would you read the quote when you can clearly get to entire message the respondant was sending without it? So really it breaks the conversation up, you now have started a new thought and are likely to get responses that don't continue the original theme at all. The correct post should be:
Captain Rotundo Wrote:
> But I have to say that pacman really blows.
> I mean who would like such a crappy game?

What do you mean dude, Pacman is video gaming perfection!
Now anyone can jump into the conversation and know exactly whats going on, and where each participant stands. All of that extra info is gathered simply be reading a post that is in a logical order, even though its actaully shorter. Now you don't have to dig back for an older message to respond to this thread, and if you want to respond to another point in the original message you know that responding to this isn't the place. People that actually want to continue this line of though have a way to in a cohesive manner.

If you are using Outlook Express there are two programs that may help you with your posting:

You will be recieved much better for making an effort to abide by usual Usenet guidelines. But, I may also suggest you try out another Newsreader such as:

2.5 What is on topic here?

Any non-binary messages relating to MAME, to MAME specific programs (Front-ends, ROM-book-keeping utilities etc.), to the playing of the games emulated by MAME and to coin-op arcade machine emulation in general. You may also discuss other coin-op arcade machine emulators, but other types of emulation should be discussed in more appropriate newsgroups.

2.6 Related newsgroups

Arcade machine emulation (and MAME), are at times also discussed here:

MAME related binaries may be posted in the following binary-groups:

2.7 Related Websites

There is an alt.games.mame related website, with mugshots and short bios of some of the regular alt.games.mame posters, over at http://www.tombstones.org.uk, feel free to pop over and see who we are and perhaps join up yourself... (And there are of course *hundreds* of web-sites related to MAME itself.)

You can always find this faq at my personal website http://www.dweasel.com/.

For queries relating to PinMAME and Visual Pinball, try http://www.vpforums.com/ as these are more PinMAME orientated that alt.games.mame. There are people who will try to answer your question in alt.games.mame as well.

2.8 Related Other

Tombstones IRC Chat at irc.foreverchat.net ports 6660-6669, 7000. The channels are #tombstones and #mame (residents of this channel must also reside in #tombstones).

SuperMappy has an IRC channel at irc.foreverchat.net also. The channel is #arcadecabs and is for arcade cabinet construction.

For IRC access Windows users may want to try mIRC at htpp://www.mirc.com).

2.9 Header Tags in alt.games.mame posts

Tags are fixed abbreviations (in square brackets) that you can add to the subject-line of your posts, in order to more easily explain what you are writing about. Like:

[MAIL-REQ] MARSMTRX - mmx_05.bin for new MAME
This one simply means that you'd like someone to e-mail you a particular ROM part. Good use of tags will ease communication.

The following Tags are recommended for use in alt.games.mame:

[ABUSE]

For replies to spam messages, with a notification that the spammer has been reported.

[CAB]

For messages concerning the building of MAME cabinets.

[MAIL-REQ]

For e-mail requests for ROMs, partial ROMs or any other MAME relevant files that you are unable to find.
NOTE: Some (usually newer) ROMs are positively HUGE, so please make sure that your e-mail-box can handle these before asking, okay?
NOTE: Do *NOT* post any binaries in alt.games.mame in reply to a [MAIL-REQ], but please *DO* post a message that you have filled the request, to stop others from doing the same.

[NAME?]

For the ever popular "Name that game I used to play, but can no longer remember the title of" post. (Please see the next tag)

[GAME NAME?]

It has been suggested that the NAME tag is slightly abiguous, so maybe you should use this one.

[BURN-REQ]

For messages related to requesting MAME ROM sets burned onto CDs/DVDs and/or any information purtaining to that. Please see the relevent question(s) in section 4.

[BURN]

For messages related to offering MAME ROM sets burned onto CDs/DVDs and/or any information purtaining to that. Please see the relevent question(s) in section 4.


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